Orion Sirius Pro Azeqg Computerized Goto Telescope Mount Reviews
#i 
Posted 20 August 2020 - 06:47 AM
Anyone have whatever experience with this mount? I am thinking of de-forking my viii" LX200 archetype and putting the OTA on a Precious stone to make polar alignment with photographic camera fastened easier. I'd be interested in how well information technology tracks, how it talks to a PC (I operate remotely) and what the initial Q/A, parts and service experience is.
My interest is in basic level astro photography, currently with a Sony a6500 mirrorless. The LX200 tin can become about 15 seconds in alt-az without significant PE. Longer exposures are possible on a wedge but I am finding polar alignment troublesome on a wedge because I can't swing to December xc with the camera attached then I would have to remove it and substitute an eyepiece and diagonal. And moving the wedge in AZ is extremely fiddly considering of all the friction between the wedge and tripod bases. And then in that location is the cable management issue (camera and focuser cables) in detail. Only looking for a more elegant solution and willing to spend SOME money.
I'k attracted to the Orion Sirius Pro AZ/EQ-Chiliad in particular considering of its size and weight and too considering of the mini-pier blueprint and how information technology folds for storage and travel.
Paul
Edited past pgoelz, 20 August 2020 - 06:47 AM.
#2
Posted 20 Baronial 2020 - 11:52 PM
I recently caused a used Orion Sirius EQ-1000 - but the previous possessor lost the hand controller.
After some googling I discovered the EQMOD development projection, and downloaded and installed their software drivers.
The mountain is now controllable with the cartes du ciel planetarium programme.
Seems to work nicely
I'm new at using an EQ mountain and I concluded up getting the polar alignment messed up a couple of times.
And then I discovered the doing the calibration on the polar scope - and after doing that things got a whole lot easier.
I also purchased the wifi module from Orion and downloaded the SynScan Pro app on a tablet.
I don't exercise photography of whatsoever kind - I'chiliad strictly a visual observer.
The previous owner had an 8" newt on the mount.
I've been putting a Celestron C8 SCT on it - with a Telrad mounted on the C8.
The EQMOD also facilitates using a game-box controller, and I picked up one very inexpensively.
Just had that out running the other night.
With cartes du ciel - you connect to the mountain.
The software assumes - at connection fourth dimension - that the mount is at home position towards Polaris.
I then slew to a brilliant star to the west, which the mount gets to within about 10 degrees.
Then looking through the Telrad, and using the game-box I nudge the star into the Telrad center
Then wait in the eyepiece and utilize a slower speed to eye the star.
Once centered, in cartes du ciel in that location is a "SYNC" function which updates the software to the star's actual position
I exercise that with about a half dozen stars around the horizon and its pretty well aligned.
One matter I take to watch out for however is - I'm using the mount as a goto for visual observations.
Which means I'm doing a lot of goto movements from one side of the meridian to the other.
I've had the eyepiece fall out of the scope and drop onto the basis - coming loose from to many meridian flips.
Wish I could requite you more info from having information technology longer
Edited by CN_102NE, xx August 2020 - 11:56 PM.
#3
Posted 21 August 2020 - 05:13 AM
I've been putting a Celestron C8 SCT on it - with a Telrad mounted on the C8.
Thanks! With the C8 on it, if you rap on the tube, how long does it take to settle downwardly and so there are no remainder vibrations at high power?
And how noisy is it?
Paul
Edited past pgoelz, 21 Baronial 2020 - 05:thirteen AM.
#4
Posted 21 August 2020 - 10:02 AM
I also have the Orion Sirius EQ-Chiliad (HEQ5). I have a Meade viii" OTA on information technology and it works well even loaded downward with camera equipment. Noise level isn't actually that loud, it is loudest when slewing fast only otherwise is very quiet and even the fast slew is not really all that loud. It is loftier pitched and whiny but non to injure your ears or anything. The Sirius Pro is an upgraded version, (HEQ6-Pro) with better drives and tracking. Handles the aforementioned weight limits (30lbs equipment) as mine does. Will work with or without the mitt controller, though if you programme to use it without, every bit CN_102NE said you lot practise need a special cablevision and software to go far work. However you Tin can notwithstanding control it from a PC with the mitt controller attached as i do when i am doing any AP with it. Yous plug a special serial cable to the HC via an RJ-12 port and whatever type of connection to the PC y'all want to apply. i employ a serial to USB converter to make it work. I accept to admit i like my mount a lot. if i e'er take to purchase some other one in the near time to come (God forbid something should happen to mine) i would go with the HEQ6 Pro as well. I am not sure which has the dual encoders, the Pro or the ii model, i think it is the Pro model that does. Volition need to look that upwards merely that feature would come in quite handy every bit there are times i goof upward the alignment by accidentally bumping the mount lock. the dual encoders assure that even if this happens or if y'all want to manually move it to another point, that the manus controller doesn't loose alignment.
#5
Posted 21 August 2020 - 01:36 PM
I don't think the Orion Sirius EQ-G (HEQ5) is the same as the Az-Eq-One thousand that I am looking at? Or is the mount the aforementioned, with the exception of the pier-pod? The mount looks different.
I am troubled by the fact that you have to plug the series cable into the mitt controller? That makes cablevision management all that more messy I would think?
Paul
#6
Posted 21 Baronial 2020 - 02:50 PM
I accept the Skywatcher AZ-EQ5 mount - essentially the same as the Orion Sirius Pro AZ/EQ-G - and I employ it with a Celestron 8-inch EdgeHD SCT. and a Nikon D5500 photographic camera. Using my EdgeHD on this mount makes for a well matched portable system with no single item heavier than about 7kg.
I can get tracking at roughly one arcsecond rms total , but demand to use an OAG to attain this. I take a few images in my gallery taken with this organisation.
It talks fine to a PC using EQMOD/EQASCOM: I employ PHD2, Carte du Ciel, Sharpcap and APT for mountain and camera control. I plug the mount direct to the PC with a USB cable. I don't apply the hand controller but do use a gamepad in association with the PC.
Noise: Full speed slewing is 50 - 60 dB at one metre.
Andy
#7
Posted 21 August 2020 - 03:37 PM
Thanks, that is really good information. Aside from the color and the dissimilar tripod, are there ANY differences between the 2 mounts?
Paul
#viii
Posted 21 Baronial 2020 - 03:57 PM
#ix
Posted 21 August 2020 - 04:xiv PM
That report about Orion not wanting to sell parts to anyone but the kickoff owner is disturbing. And incredibly curt sighted. If truthful, that would exist a total plough off for me.
Paul
#x
Posted 21 August 2020 - 09:xiii PM
Thanks! With the C8 on it, if y'all rap on the tube, how long does it take to settle down so there are no residual vibrations at high power?
And how noisy is it?
Paul
The C8 is short enough of a tube that information technology doesn't swing back and forth inappreciably at all.
Nothing that I observe at all.
By the time the mount has reached a target position, and I get to look into the eyepiece - by that the tube is settled.
The max speed for the motors on this mount are 800x sidereal.
And at that speed it merely makes a whining noise until it reaches its target points
As information technology nears the target bespeak the motors slow down and that's when information technology makes noise.
Its kind of a clacking noise.
Some times when I'thou running it without doing a goto - merely manually touching the direction pads on the tablet to make it go somewhere, and when I'm moving it at mid-speed, information technology will make a agglomeration of bustling and clacking noises.
I would judge the nosiest speeds are from 300x to 600x siderial
#eleven
Posted 21 August 2020 - 09:17 PM
With the
That report well-nigh Orion not wanting to sell parts to anyone but the first owner is disturbing. And incredibly short sighted. If true, that would be a total turn off for me.
Paul
I'thou non sure what parts you would be looking for.
But they certainly do sell the wifi and the hand controllers to anyone.
#12
Posted 21 August 2020 - 10:07 PM
With the
I'm not certain what parts yous would be looking for.
Simply they certainly do sell the wifi and the hand controllers to anyone.
I think the inference was that replacement parts might be an outcome? I suppose I could always call and ask to buy a motor for my recently purchased used mountain.....
Paul
#13
Posted 21 August 2020 - xi:07 PM
Annotation that there are two different mounts.
i. Orion Sirius Pro AZ/EQ-Grand which is pretty much the same thing as the Skywatcher AZ-EQ5. But different colors.
This mountain tin exist configured for either AZ or EQ.
2. Orion Sirius EQ-Q which is pretty much the same ting every bit the Skywatcher HEQ5. Just unlike colors.
This mount is a dedicated EQ mount.
The dedicated EQ mount is a bit better for astro-photography.
The duo-purpose AZ or EQ is popular with those that likewise similar to utilise it for visual or outreach.
#14
Posted 22 August 2020 - 02:13 PM
I call back the inference was that replacement parts might be an issue? I suppose I could always call and enquire to buy a motor for my recently purchased used mountain.....
Paul
Oh, the motors - at least for the Orion EQ-G can be purchased from Amazon.
They are standard Nema 17 6 wire stepper motors
Two coils having 3 wires, with the center wire middle-tapped.
The Orion EQ-Yard and its European counterpart accept been on the market for so many years that users have done all sorts of things to them. There is a web page one can google for - where a user provides instructions on how to detach and re-assemble one.
Personally if I were looking for an internal part - even a motor controller PCB - I call up I could detect 1 from a third party.
Ebay for example will have a motor control PCB on sale now and then.
#15
Posted 22 Baronial 2020 - 02:20 PM
Note that there are two different mounts.
1. Orion Sirius Pro AZ/EQ-Thousand which is pretty much the aforementioned thing as the Skywatcher AZ-EQ5. Just unlike colors.
This mount can be configured for either AZ or EQ.
ii. Orion Sirius EQ-Q which is pretty much the same ting as the Skywatcher HEQ5. Simply different colors.
This mountain is a dedicated EQ mountain.
The dedicated EQ mount is a flake improve for astro-photography.
The duo-purpose AZ or EQ is popular with those that also like to use it for visual or outreach.
Well said!
Mine is the EQ only mount.
And I would love to swap it for the AZ/EQ alternative mount! :-]
Putting an SCT on information technology allows me to turn the eyepiece in a usable position.
And if I wanted to put my 8" newt on it I would probably be best ownership or building tube rotating rings for it - which other visual observers do. Meet Astro-Baby's very absurd website. She too modified it by putting a potentiometer into it for the polar telescopic internal light.
I did the same modification only used a fixed resistor instead.
http://www.astro-bab...ngs Project.htm
#16
Posted 22 August 2020 - 02:57 PM
Oh, the motors - at least for the Orion EQ-Thousand tin can be purchased from Amazon.
They are standard Nema 17 6 wire stepper motors
Two coils having 3 wires, with the heart wire center-tapped.
The Orion EQ-G and its European analogue have been on the market for and then many years that users have done all sorts of things to them. There is a web page 1 can google for - where a user provides instructions on how to disassemble and re-assemble i.
Personally if I were looking for an internal role - even a motor controller PCB - I think I could find one from a third party.
Ebay for example will take a motor control PCB on auction at present and then.
I think y'all mis-understood me. What I meant was that as an experiment I could telephone call them and ask to buy a motor for my (non-existant) used mountain to see if they would sell parts IF I E'er NEEDED THEM. I would be very reluctant to buy a complex product similar a mountain (with many specialized mechanical parts) if parts were not available to anyone except the original owner. And that could even be an result for me as the original owner if I lost the documentation.
Paul
#17
Posted 22 Baronial 2020 - 03:23 PM
You tin can buy the part from SW, they are one and the aforementioned mount if y'all can get it from Orion.
I use my Az-EQ with a C8 and ES102 (together) and I can exercise a 15 second exposure in SharpCap. Had it for 3 years and have not used information technology in EQ yet. Great EAA mount.
Edited by Jeff Lee, 23 Baronial 2020 - 02:38 PM.
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